Former Red Bull F1 team principal Christian Horner joins Edd Straw and Jon Noble for a wide-ranging and feature-length conversation in the latest episode of The Race F1 Podcast.
Horner reflects on building Red Bull Racing from a disruptive underdog into a multi-championship powerhouse, the leadership style that shaped that success, and why he got forced out.
He also explains his non-negotiables for returning to F1, what Max Verstappen brings to a team, and his thoughts on whether Adrian Newey will prove a success at Aston Martin.
There's also a number of surprise revelations - including one about Fernando Alonso - plus Horner tells the real story of how those recent Ferrari rumours came about.
You can also watch the full conversation here